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Sun, 16 Mar 2003
From: Sara Swanson <lil_lass13@yahoo.com>
Subject: Robert Edwin Peary
To: judgekillits@polarcontroversy.com
Hello. I am Sara Swanson from Limestone Community High School in
Peoria, Illinois. I am writing a paper on the Peary, and am
needing assistance. Where did Peary attend college and did his
mother follow him there too? Please help if you can. Thank you for
you time and patience.
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Great grammar "...am writing a paper on the Peary, and
am needing assistance"
All the assistance you need is at your local library. |
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:46:56 -0800
From: Sara Swanson <lil_lass13@yahoo.com>
Russell R.,
I appreciate your sarcasm. I really was asking for assistance to
cheat. We are required to con someone on the Internet into writing
a personal interview for the paper. I can understand why you have
such a low opinion of our student population, knowing that all I
wanted was to plagerize. If I wasn't interested in cheating I
would have gone to the library (gag me with the card catalog!).
Would it honestly have taken me any more time to do the research
myself instead of trying to con you into providing written answers
to my questions than it did for you to see through my phony
comments?
Sara |
Dear Lil Lass,
Oh, sure, we have teams of bored people sitting around here just waiting to
write your paper for you. Of course we would love to be personally interviewed!
What an original ploy. How many pages would you like us to author for you?
Russell R.
PS You misspelled plagiarize
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From: "The Phillips Family" <jcphil@promiselink.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003
Dear Sir,
I'm helping my 11 year old daughter with her report on Robert E.
Peary for school. We're hoping we'll be able to print copies of
your photos for her display. Could you please forward your reply?
Thank you. jcphil@promiselink.com
Sincerely, Mrs. Coreen Phillips |
We cannot give permissions to use copyright material to total strangers.
An email address is the equivalent of a payphone. Notice that you want my
property but do not state your address, telephone number, etc. You want this
permission "on the spot" without planning ahead far enough to even mail us a
letter with your signature. Nor do you offer us a copy of the presentation to
review, etc.
Would you give your property away to strangers?
Why doesn't your 11 year old simply copy the pages out of library books? |
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Navigator of New York
by Wayne Johnston
Amazon banned my first review. Here is my second try. Anyone who has not
read this has no idea how vicious it is. If Janet Vetters (or her trust fund $)
ever wrote an anti-Peary novel, this is it.
[1-star ] Upside down history with a
vengeance
The anti-Peary and anti-Henson vendetta will spare no expense of time, money
or effort to advance their agenda. I'd compare this effort to a novel in which
Hitler is the hero and Patton is shown to be a frightened little wimp, so
worthless that we end up cheering on Adolph. If seeing history's heros, who made
tremendous physical sacrifices, demeaned as if buffoons is your cup of tea then
this is your kind of reading. Bravo to Random House for this one, eh?
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Why are you writing us for? You're not a moron. This column is for
morons. You must be only an idiot.
Actually, thank you very much.
Love the last line, eh? |
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"Dear Mr. Robinson,...you probably are just some fucking bum
who can't get a job at freaking gas station..." |
"I need this information really bad and fast. Any real web author
with as much under his or her belt would act more appropriately
...So my father did some research on you and found a great deal on
you..I have even requested permission to use your information from
my english teacher..."
From: MFM6151@webtv.net (Max Mason)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003
Subject: Re: The Max Mason Editorial
Dear Mr. Robinson,
I don't think it really matters how you get on the internet like
webtv, msn, aol or any search engine or meta-search engine if you
even know what that is. I am learning how to not plagiarize work,
which I think you took the wrong way which I can't see how. Like I
said before I need
this information really bad and fast. You asked me for more
information and I gave it to you. So after I sent
that I thought that it would end right there but you turned it
into some big deal. Any real web author with as much under his or
her belt would act more appropriately then to tell a 14 year old
to "fuck off" and did what they asked them to do, and you come
back with some bad letter
saying how I would drop out of school and be working at a local
jack in the box. So my father did some research on you and found a
great deal on you. I hope you will read this and reply back in a
decent way I would really appreciate it. All that I would expect
would be the information or a simple I don't think you are worth
giving this infomation to.
Your's truly,
Max Mason
(Previously)
"...you probably are just some fucking bum who can't get a job at
freaking gas station..."
Return-Path: <MFM6151@webtv.net>
Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:55:48 -0800 (PST)
From: MFM6151@webtv.net (Max Mason)
Russell R.,
I appreciate the compliment about my writng but I thought that you
might be some help but I guess I was wrong. I thought that you
would be some one that I could get some help from and that I could
respect but you probably are just some fucking bum who can't get a
job at freaking gas
station, that lives in a dark alley in a card board box, and that
just gets local accses from a library. I am no liar. Maybe you
don't have Matt's real diary except for that one page that you
probably just made up you prick. You probably are not even Russell R.
Robinson.
Sincerley,
The Honor Roll
Student at AMS
(Previously)
"...I have even requested permission to use your information from
my english teacher..."
Dear Mr. Robinson
I have even requested permission to use your information from my
english teacher, which she has been teaching us not to plagerize
information these past two weeks so that we use our own words for
our biography reports and presentation. If you let me use your
information I will most likely use it in a direct quote. If you
allow me
to use this information please send it to my email address.
sincerely yours,
Max Mason
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an essay by Russell R. Robinson |
• "Any fool can criticize,
condemn and complain and most fools do."
• "Experience is a dear teacher, and only fools will learn from no other."
• "They that will not be counseled, cannot be helped. If you do not hear
reason she will rap you on the knuckles."
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I received another one of "Max Mason's
emails" today.
No address, phone number, etc. Once upon a time people used what was called
"stationary" upon which they wrote letters, placed one in an envelope,
a stamp was attached, and then given to a Postal Carrier. But all that
took a few minutes, and a reply might take days, so people only asked
serious questions or made thoughtful comments indicating they had read
the book.
The Postal system
Sending letters was a tradition from long ago when Max Mason was still
in diapers—before the Internet was opened to the public in the early
1990's, thereby allowing people to email those who write the books
lining the shelves of what Benjamin Franklin valued so highly—a public
library. But email changed all of this because it allowed people to
email first and think latter—or not think at all. Or not read at all.
Scholarship rapidly nose-dived.
A public library
Up until the mid 1990's people went to their local library and
actually read the books. But with the advent of email they simply
began to whine like babies to the book or website authors in their
short, anonymous, email containing a few poorly constructed,
ungrammatical sentence with misspelled words. Unlike the writer's
stationary of a previous decade, these bare no contact information
other than the virtually anonymous "reply to" address.
Don't read—email!
Such petulant demands are sent by students from webTV or AOL accounts.
Their subtext may be interpreted as— "Oh, please! Don't force me to
read, I want you to read the answer to me! Read to me! Tell me what is
in your book by writing it in an email so I can cut and paste it into
my school work! Then I can go back to watching TV, hanging out with my
friends and/or shopping at the mall."
Soon students with school assignments would head for the Internet
instead of the library. Rather than search the card catalog for a
physical book they searched for a website about their topic. Then they
went straight to the email address of the website. Step two was to
request in email the information they would otherwise have to visit a
library to obtain, or spend time reading the contents of the website
to absorb.
Website authors quickly noticed that:
1) The email sender had not read the content provided on the website.
They asked questions that were answered in the site's material, if
only they would read it.
2) The email sender actually thought that the authors would do their
school work for them.
3) The email sender assumed there were persons reading their email who
were obliged to give to them the assistance that their teachers and
local librarians were paid to provide.
4) Some clever students wanted to "email interview" the author. This
meant that the student (even adult journalists have tried this ploy)
would send a list of questions to be answered similar to an essay
test.
This last trick is sinister because in some cases the authors original
text (email interview text) would be copyrighted in the journalist's
magazine article. The emailer would profit from the website author's
work.
Even students have tried the "email interview" approach, using a hoped
for author's reply in scholarship entries, or a thing called "History
Day" to win prizes ranging from $1,000 to $10,000. In one case a
"History Day" entrant from California acquired a rare historical item
for his "History Day" presentation but never returned it. The value of
the stolen item is over $20,000. That will teach that author to trust
the email from a student (stranger) and/or "History Day", don't you
think? In fact, neither "History Day" nor the school accept any
responsibility for this larceny.
Authors quickly learned that:
A) If they did help someone, they would never receive a thank you, or
a copy of the completed school assignment for review.
B) That if they acted responsibly by referring the student to their
teacher or a library they often received hateful, obscene replies.
Some even tried to "mail bomb them" with viruses, or other silly acts
of retribution.
C) The best policy was to delete all such email on the first input
rather than waste their time as in "A)" or suffering "biting the hand
that feeds" as in "B)".
Conclusion
Website authors learned to hit the delete key, no matter how much the
"better angels of their nature" wanted to help a stranger. They
learned that the really good students would volunteer to share with
them their work, and not be a resource wasting educational cheat.
In fact, the good students did share their work—gave something to the
author that showed they appreciated the website. In fact, one may
assume that the best students never email at all. They simply research
their topic in the conventional way and author it themselves as their
teachers intended. After all, it is about learning to put ideas into
written form; the basis of civilization itself. Or, in today's
vernacular "Hello? It's called getting an education."
Russell R. Robinson
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From: DCathel02@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003
Dear Sir- I made the tremendous mistake of buying a copy of the Bryce
"book" when it first came out- which I deeply regret. I have since
corresponded with the author- who did answer my critical letter- by
saying- in part- "you are the only person who has contacted me who
showed any "liking" of Robert E. Peary..." Yes, indeed- I'm a very
proud "fan" of Peary! I'm not only astonished at the hate which is
thrown at Peary- but- also AMAZED that on Shackleton seems to get any
documentary time on PBS-NOVA- or anywhere else! What is going on?!
Pls. folks- let's wake-up- and acknowledge the true and powerful "T.R."
superstud HERO- who was ROBERT E. PEARY!!
Thanks! Doug |
You are the second person to write us who is not a moron. That is interesting.
We made the same mistake with the same book, only we waited until copies became
plentiful on the used market to assure that the author did not receive a
royalty.
We were unfortunate to receive an absurdly lengthy email from that author but no
one could read it. We replied with— "Millions followed Hitler, you follow a
Brooklyn milkman." So much for that noise.
As to Shackelton, well, that is hard to understand. The man was impetuous,
foolishly sailed into an icepack where his ship was crushed until it sank. His
men ate the dogs, then became a resource draining rescue mission. Why is the man
the subject of documentaries? Does this indicate that TV producers consider
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several men in front of a brick
(I believe) pole
with the letter N on it.
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From: "Billy Magee" <magee101@bellsouth.net>
I am curious about your stories of the North Pole discovery and such.
My family has two very rare if not the only photo’s of an expedition,
only I do not know which expedition (I believe to be the discovery of
the pole).
The back is signed by Robert Peary and I believe William
Bartlett. My mother was a citizen of Newfoundland and these were
passed to her. Her grandfather was Harold Batten and served under both
these men. If you are interested let me know and I will find out more
about these pictures. One is of the ship and one is of several men in
front of a brick (I believe) pole with the letter N on it. My mother
has possession of these pictures and she lives near me here in
Louisiana.
William H Magee
471 Cockerham Road
Denham Springs, La.
70726
Home 225-791-7799 /
Cell 225-317-7799
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Long lost "only
surviving photo of brick North Pole" found in Louisiana!
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You have the only photos of the discovery of the North Pole? My God! Those have
been missing for years. We've been looking all over for them. The History
Channel did a documentary on this last year. Those could be worth millions!
Batten? He's the man who went missing the night those photos disappeared. He was
never seen alive again. Without those photos Peary was never ever able to prove
he reached the Pole and so died a broken man.
A brick pole with an "N"? That was the pole stabilizer Peary engineered to mark
his discovery. His teams of dogs had to carry those bricks over the Arctic
ocean, some fell through the ice and drowned doing it. That photo is the only
proof they reached it, and bricked in the Pole long enough to claim discovery.
What is her address? Would she want to sell the photos?
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From: wayne <patrickstuart81@go.com>
Subject: Solid evidence proves he didn't make it.
To: polarmoron@polarcontroversy.com
Don't want to burst your trust in Peary and backers
but your web site misses the point.
Peary faked his north pole
observations so badly that it seems a joke that believers in him carry
this sad legacy.
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Maybe all the people on Peary's expedition were faked?
Maybe Marvin was a fake?
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Maybe Wayne is a fake. How can he prove that Wayne's pictures were
taken at the solar altitudes he claims? How do we know Wayne's are
even real pictures of the sun? Wayne's data doesn't agree with what
one would predict using U.S. Navy refraction tables.
I like the idea that Marvin was a fake and didn't really exist.
Everybody made Marvin up, because Peary needed one more supporting
party to make his claimed logistic system work. Then they had to
invent a grieving mother in Elmira, N.Y. And of course nobody at
Cornell wanted to admit that they didn't know Marvin, so it was easy
to convince people to erect a monument to him there. Peary secretly
got a huge laugh out of going there to present the eulogy.
Borup was going to blow the whistle on the whole deal, so Peary
commissioned MacMillan to charter a submarine and upset Borup's boat
in the Hudson river and make sure he drowned. This gave MacMillan a
chance to leave Borup and his dreaded college slang behind when he
went on the Crockerland expedition. MacMillan secretly knew that four
years of listening to that in the white north would have left him a
babbling bowl of jello.
Bartlett had to keep his mouth shut, or Peary would have spilled the
beans about his childhood bed wetting. Goodsell had to keep his mouth
shut because he had been collecting payments for phony services under
a phony medical insurance plan he enrolled the nonexistent Marvin in.
And of course, Henson was afraid to contradict Peary and happy just to
be rid of the constant shouts of
Hen-SONNN whenever a menial task had to be done.
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Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003
From: wayne <patrickstuart81@go.com>
Subject: Solid evidence proves he didn't make it.
To: polarmoron@polarcontroversy.com
Don't want to burst your trust in Peary and backers
but your web site misses the point. Peary faked his north pole
observations so badly that it seems a joke that believers in him carry
this sad legacy.
Please read :
http://www.eh2r.com/mp/frame_pages/differ_main.html
Read the text completely. Consider looking at 6 degree sun pictures
taken in the high Arctic. And find out that 10 arc seconds vertical
sun disk compressions as reported by Peary at the Pole in 1909 is
impossible!
Quick explanation: The sun disk flattens a great deal near the horizon
especially with very cold air. I made a full sweep of sun shots for a
year and found that Peary does not even come close. He Should have "dV"
vertical diameters something like 30 minutes of arc instead of
reporting about 31.9 minutes of arc. Dr Cook
has also strange sun observations, but in his case the sun was
flatter.
Cheers, Wayne
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Dear Wayne,
You clearly show the precise size of your blind spot Wayne; Peary
knew perfectly well about refraction of the sun at cold
temperatures and low altitudes. He took sextant readings in the
Arctic over an 18 year period. Did you know that? Don't you think he
became expert in his techniques? Pearys markers (cairns) recovered
many years later on the Northern tip of Greenland were remarkably
accurate in longitude and latitude.
Here, measure the 1909 sun angle yourself, would you? Do you
know enough math to know how it is done? You need the focal length of
the Kodak camera he used, etc.
http://dougdavies.com/northpoleproof2.htm
There are 2 such photos that show the sun and both can be
photographically underexposed to simply resolve the approximate sun
position to a point. Peary never thought of them as evidence. Peary
never even used them to prove he had been at the Pole. They were
discovered in the files of the National Geographic in 1990.
Your remark about "Peary and backers" indicates you have been
subjected to propaganda from the Vetter's anti-Peary conspiracy that
just as vehemently asserts the colossal fraud Crook miraculously
climbed McKinley. And National Geographic's "Peary and backers" are in
on the "conspiracy" right?
http://www.northpole1909.com/davies.html
Peary was selected as an engineer for government service from a
national competition.
Wayne, would you be picked above all other candidates from a
national engineering competition? Not likely, eh? Yet you think a
4-year college educated engineer, who was top of his class (and
skilled in calculus and spherical trigonometry) was not as smart as
you are Wayne? Think again.
Thanks for writing us!
Sincerely,
"Peary and backers" |
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